I talked to Mike Pompeo for an hour. He often surprised me, and sometimes ticked me off.

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Pompeo was CIA Director and then became Secretary of State.

Now he might run for president.

This is our full interview.

He’s a very smart politician.

He surprised me by saying a bunch of things I liked, but also a lot I hate.

He says legalizing drugs is a “terrible idea” and Edward Snowden should be killed.

But I’m glad Pompeo’s willing to debate. Many politicians won’t.

I’m also glad he has a sense of humor.